In the following article Glen of 299Days.com covers an issue that is very dear to most preppers – what to do when neighbors, friends, and family come knocking. With limited resources available we’re all going to have to make tough decisions. Like many of us, Glen plans on helping those truly in need. But what about those who refused to see the warning signs and stuck their head in the sand, perhaps even lambasted you for your extreme ideas and theories? Instead of being frugal and preparing, they focused their efforts on entertainment and good times.
But when the good times end, they will come to you for help. What will you do when they show up at your front door?
Most preppers or survivalists have thought about this topic and while some have an idea or plan of what they would do, it is hard to really say until you are in the thick of it. Part of preparing is having the skills and plan to deal with the ugly side of humanity who will be knocking on your door. Even if you have 100% solid OPSEC and there isn’t another soul who knows about your 6 month supply of necessities, they will come knocking. Even if you are like us and aren’t ‘preppers’ per se but lean more on the side of homesteading, they will come knocking. Or just break your door in. Are you ready for that?
(This post is something you can send to your friends or print out and hand to them when SHTF.)
Dear Friend:
I love my friends, but I will shoot you if I have to. I’m serious. Here’s why.
I tried to persuade you to prepare for what’s coming and, in the process, revealed that to you that I’m preparing. You realized that I have food, guns, etc., and ended up saying, half kidding but half serious, “I’ll come to your place when SHTF.”
No, you won’t. I will shoot you. If you threaten me and my family, I will use force to defend against any threat. And showing up at my place hungry and unprepared is a threat to me. You will eat my food and use up my medical supplies, generator, firewood, etc. That’s less of these life-saving things for me and my family. That’s a threat.
Is this greed on my part? No. I will take care of the truly needy – those who cannot take care of themselves. But you are different. Very different. You had plenty of chances to prepare for yourself.
But what did you do? You spent the weekends watching football, went on expensive vacations, and never made your spouse mad at you with your “crazy” ideas that something bad was happening. You didn’t do shit because… you would just come to my place. Problem solved, right? You didn’t need to spend time, money, and create domestic strife because I did that all for you.
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Not. Why should I spend my time, money, and stress just so you can waltz into my place and live happily ever after? I’m a nice guy, but – really? – I’m going to spend my (very limited) free time, disposable income, and domestic tranquility just so you can have a leisurely life and more material comforts pre-Collapse while I don’t?
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Why do you think I will sacrifice enormous amounts of my time and money so you can enjoy yourself while I’m slaving away? Would you assume you could come over and leave your broken car at my house? That I would just spend thousands of dollars on parts and several weekends fixing it and then hand it over to you with a smile – just because I’m a “good person”? Would anyone expect that?
You do, apparently. You actually expect to waltz over to my cabin and receive – with a smile – thousands of dollars of food and other supplies that took me all my weekends to acquire and store.
So, my grasshopper friend (as in the story of the grasshopper and the ant), here is your official warning: if your “plan” for your and your family’s safety is to come to my place, you’re wrong. When you show up, I’ll ask you to leave. When you don’t, I’ll point a gun in your face. If you refuse to leave, I will shoot you. You are a threat to me.
You had years of time and very clear warnings to get ready. But you didn’t. Hey, I love football but haven’t been able to watch a game in a few years; I’ve been fixing up the cabin, buying supplies, and training. I spent a lot of money doing all these things so I haven’t gone on a long vacation in… forever. I have had several difficult times with my family because of all the prepping I’m doing; I could have easily done what you did, which is just say “Yes, dear” and not prepare because your family didn’t want you to.
I hope this message jolted you. There’s still some time. Go prep. Please understand that your plan cannot be “I’ll come to your place.” I don’t want to shoot you.
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I have a few friends who are not preppers, but I have been prepping for over 20 years. I have purposed in my mind years ago, rather than preach prepping to my dearest friends, and drive them away. I would prep enough for them also. I know they are my( family ), these wonderful friends, I would do anything for so I have put enough away for all of us.
They don’t need to know until the time comes where the preps are needed. My love for them is all that’s needed.
I think I know how your situation will end Dave. Your friends and relatives will all come over and eat you out of house and home leaving you and your family hungry while you are working to make final preparations for the next crisis. Then when your cupboards are empty they will blame you for not preparing well enough For those you claim to love. That first week should be pretty nice though while their teenagers are sitting on your couch eating EVERYTHING in sight every few minutes and watching the disaster unfold on your color TV.
You sure are a nice guy Dave!!!
You forgot about all the ‘friends’ he’ll acquire when his ‘friends’ tell the neighborhood!!!
Uh, Dave…read I Timothy 5:8.
And, yes, this is an old old old article/letter, but needed to refresh the idiots’ mindset!
If they are “wonderful friends” why would they put you in the position to have to take care of them? I suggest that you consider your motives and they should too. Control? Hmmm…
Well, there it is folks, cold, hard, and succinct. These are also my sentiments 100% and I have also made it clear to those I am going to help that I am the boss, and I won’t be manipulated by those suffering from hunger or thirst. If you are too stupid to take care of your own, don’t expect me to, as he stated in the article.
What he did not say in the article that I noticed, is that to endure you have to have a thick skin, because there will be those who want to condemn you for your ethos and approach to survival. Also don’t forget, you must at times you may have to make a snap judgement, but in doing so you cannot hesitate or equivocate about what needs to be done in situations which require you to make the decision to live or die in just a few seconds.
Dear Dave,
Very Christian and very laudable. You do realize that your friends also have their own family and friends, right? And those friends also have friends and family? That among those good people will be at least one or two who will mention your set up to others? In short, you will be over run and killed. All you love will die. It is a sure fact. Better instead to prep for them and not tell them. Instead place their stuff in a location far from your own. Let them find it and deal with any fall out they have created. You can watch from afar and make better decisions at a later date. God first and then your own family. Don’t endanger your loved ones with false Christianity or “test” your God.
Dave of Oregon….are you really that naive???
consider the source and where he says he is at lala land central his preps are most likly a 100 cases of top ramen noodles got it….
This sillyness is absurd. Mad max thunderdome. This stand alone attitude is why you will be the weakest. We all grew up with six foot fences, but that is not our history. People used to work together. Help was the neighbor down the road. Your world seems to be hatfield and mccoys.
Sure, your unprepped sister comes over with her kids asking for help, and you’ll send them packing because they should have forseen disaster. I know you won’t. I also know you won’t send the neighbor packing either. But, if your percieved world is where we end up, I hope to be taken by the disaster. Would not want to live in a self-ish world.
Work together, or stand alone? And, no, not talking about free loaders. Everyone pitches in.
You already live in the very selfish world of which you speak. You have simply failed to recognize the attitudes in good times that will become deadly in tough times in the people you thought you could trust. Very likely you were one of the ones who went on vacations and to ball games living lavishly off of debt to others who actually worked for what they have. And then you likely laughed at those who told you hard times are coming.
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Spot on! Dave is clueless.
…”I hope to be taken by the disaster. Would not want to live in a self-ish world’…
Your hope will most certainly come to fruition! You’ll become cannon fodder within hours because of your lazy unprepared attitude. It is unprepared lazy slugs like yourself who criticize preppers like Dan that are the truly selfish ones. You and countless others like you will become dying examples of the herd thinning itself so that the human species may continue. Darwin’s theory on the survival of the fittest will be proven out once more.
You da man!
I understand Dave’s sentiment, it’s Christian and a traditional response to those in need, I have struggled with these thoughts also. My conclusion: I will take care of my own family and any orphaned children who show up at my door…period. If I start to feed my friends I know they also have a family and will want food for them…it’s unsustainable and unrealistic to think you can just tell people they can stay but their kids can’t… where does it end? It ends with you having twenty hungry unprepared people who will eat your food in days. It ends with you being out of food and hated for being a selfish pragmatist, just shortcut the pain and say NO!
Having gamed this scenario many times, with my very few prepper friends, the solution is close to what you propose in the article. But shooting them all and letting God sort them out, well that’s a tough thing to contemplate. My guess is that 99% of us COULD NOT shoot Howard in front of his wife and kids under anything but the most dire circumstances……..and there is always the possibility that the shtf event will not be a forever thing, so when things get back to “normal” Howard’s old lady just might call the law!
We all need to realize that trying to be a lone wolf, or a small wolf pack, will lead to disaster. So unless you are a part of a large, well organized group, it will be wise to check out those arriving at your door, and to view them as potential “soldiers.” That doesn’t mean Carl, his dope smoking kids and his Kewpie doll wife with all her health and beauty aids will be welcome. They need to be sent packing, period. If you come to my door looking for a handout or a safe haven, you had better have more than an appetite!
Realizing that a well prepped homestead will be an inviting target, especially after people have been turned away, a person should also realize that security will be difficult, tantamount to staying alive, and providing all needed security with the aid of your wife and two kids will be impossible. Living on a wooded acre, I cannot begin to envision how many people would be required to properly patrol and secure the area, but I am certain that my wife and I could not do it! So think things through before you chase the indigent doctor or dentist away, the friend whose wife is a nurse, or the former spec forces sergeant that mustered out three weeks before the shtf and had no time to prep. While a dead body or two in the street in front of your house might send a message to potential “freeloaders,” YOUR dead body might be an open invitation to those with malicious intent!
Sorry, but most of the mind set in the comments above are just the thoughts of those not thinking about their own future ! This is a NANNY nation, this is the moment to grow up ! Take responsibility for your self & family. What kind of a man or woman are you if you do not prepare for your family? Not the kind of person that I want to nurture with my preps. Lazy is the mind set of most American’s that I see ! I will not be responsible for people that have sucked up the “good” life and now expect to be catered to over their inability to fess up to the disaster that is upon them !!!! No one in this day and age wants to take responsibility for the mess that they have created! In the past we see good hard working men & women. These people had common sense and MORALS ! This is not the mind set of the people today, it is always take, take, take, and never give ! I have spoke of this before in my comments, very close family that I have which is few. Those I will help some, but they will help and they will work. Those that don’t will be told to leave. I will not cave to principals that dictate the distribution of my food to people that could have would have or should have. It just shows the LAZY principals that most have in their mindset ! You have to be tuff and willing to take on the burden of trying to prep for your family. Love is what propels this, my family is my life. My love for those close to me gives me the strength through all the labor and hardship. I will not waver or bend over a crybaby, for you see, your inability has made me stronger !
This article seems to make sense given preparation is the way of life.
There are seasons in life and we should prepare as we’re able.
Those living the high life suffer a greater fall when times get tough. Their decisions affect their outcomes. When did anyone think they can head on over to hard working man’s house, who saved up and forfeited the high life and lived within their means to be ready for contingencies and think that person has an obligation to bail them out of their high-living decisions that are now coming home to roost for that grasshopper?
Even in 1 Timothy 5:9-11 with the support of widows we see accountability for one’s life is factored into whether assistance is given or not.
No widow should be placed on the official support list **unless** she is at least 60 years old, has been the wife of one husband, and is well known for good works; that is, if she has brought up children, shown hospitality, washed the saints’ feet, helped the afflicted, and devoted herself to every good work. But refuse to enroll younger widows.
So your husband dies outside one’s control and check out the requirements. Even the Bible provides stipulations for assistance. The same applies to disasters and such. Even FEMA says to keep a certain level of preparedness for weeks so that should be a tip off for people to get their house in order. Even the various disasters that have occurred has shown you may not get assistance for months and that is a warning to those who heed it. So if people do not heed the warnings, that is their decision and they will live with the consequences of their decisions.
God’s requirement is that we ensure we take care of ourselves and our immediate household first so that we have enough. The virgins who only had lamps but no oil had to go get oil because their decision was to only purchase lamps, so they lived with their decision, which apparently was a poor decision.
As the ones said that did have oil, there will not be enough for both of us, but go buy in the market and then join us. It seems the virgins without oil had the capability to purchase oil, but they chose not to when they could for whatever reason, and now had to do so at an inopportune time and it cost them. Same with distant family and friends who have not prepared – your decisions will cost you. But go and buy your food and water from the FEMA truck down the road quickly before the prices go up.
Getting prepared will cost you. There is no high living, nice cars, nice houses, nice clothes, nice vacations, and other living high on the hog situations. Just like choosing Jesus will cost you in life too.
The warnings are all over today. Better start getting ready now while you still have time.
Amen…and if today’s farce to destroy this nation or prevent a Trump win in 2020 isn’t leading the mindset of America into preparing and cutting stupid spending, then do we really want to sacrifice our lives for them??????
Young couple next door just returned from a week vacation.
All on this street have new cars/mine is 16 years old.
WELL SAID Bettergetready Nowwhileyoucan !!!
Hi all…..one very simple tactic no one has brought to the front….ya’ll best get a 100lbs or so of quick lime. and maybe some rope.
Yep. quick Lime. the same stuff used by the “old ones” in there outhouse.
Keeps stuff from stinkin and brining the little fly that will get ya all.
How many graves ya gonna dig for the low lifes that come a smurfing around for “free stuff ” ?
Personally, not digging a one.
The Lord, in the Bible ya know ? we was told whats gonna happen to them…..the critters are gonna eat good !
The rope ? thats for hangin the good for nothing onced dead in a tree as a warning sign…no use n puttin a sign on em….peoples cant read anyhow or figure the sign is for someone else.
dont need o bigg ol gun to stop em. a good .22 at a hunert yards will do the trick….head shots only. just like shootin the little deers when ya get hungry. thats if you can shoot. most today….spray and pray.
Have a good look at reality friends. Jim
I’m certain that’s what Jesus would do! Time to repent and beg our Merciful and Gracious God for His forgiveness…best reread Matt. 5 and the message Jesus have to all His followers! Blessings.
I wouldn’t want to come to your house. In fact, I can’t even imagine wanting
to know you. What I can tell you is when you come to the house of Jesus Christ
you will not be welcomed at all. I’m sure he’s already got a spot in the lake of fire
with your name written on it.
At my old church of 200 plus i signed up to have a men’s night about the outdoors i cooked deer chili and was going to teach outdoor survival techniques 7 guys signed up 99 percent of them live in the burbs. I keep getting ask about bug out bags where are you bugging out to ? if the riots has shown us anything you not getting your vehicle out of town with out you getting stopped or killed .I did a bug out bag class Wayneman do a class at church we’ll come mostly no shows they’ll be fine . Ive hunted 40 years high mountain to swamp deer i met Steve Quayle years ago and he put me in touch with the Prepper community I blended that with my hunting experience and small farming and growing that we have on a retirement check look there are no guarantees check proverbs a wise man prepares in a time of trouble a fool does nothing . i live in the back woods you see the woman and the kids and the dog and me …Hank JR
Survival Dan… you and all the other pseudo-Christian’s out there who talk big game like this sure will be in for a scolding once people like me send you to hold court at an earlier date than you planned with God while on our way to your cleaning out your bug out bags and doomsday bunkers.
-NEEGAN
Great article…
As homesteaders/preppers, we feel the same.
Here is where we differ:
We have seen the writing on the wall for years. We have a very close-knit group of friends who feel the same as us. We have been meeting in person for a few years now, planning and preparing. We know everyone’s special skill sets and what they can offer. We know exactly how many people our land can support. They will be here when the time comes, along with their preps because we have the land area. We have a whole ‘community’ of like-minded people who will be together and ready. We are as ready as possible for many different scenarios.
And yes, when the unprepared come to our place, there will be an accounting if they don’t leave. We also have spent years getting ready for this. No one who doesn’t ‘belong’ will just show up and take from us. We will defend with all force necessary.
We have a private road team along with a well rehearsed plan .No pseudo christian here wife and myself are battle scared missionary’s from Alaska to the middle east we have been through s–t she is a born again Jew and don’t back down from a fight and knows how to shoot . Everybody backs each others family we are in a last stand location. Ive shot deer and elk with every weapon , In my last writing I have reached out to others no takers were not taking application at this time.